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Calculate Inductance of a 12V Relay Coil

How to calculate inductance of 12V relay coil if only coil resistance is known?

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abhijeet Sathe
1 year ago
 
 
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Why do you want to know the inductance?

A relay-coil does not have a specification of inductance. In other words, no-one needs to know the value of inductance for a relay to operate in a circuit.

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Hello Colin
Where this guy comes from copper wire are rare.
This guy wants to build an AM radio. He had found that relay coil on the street. In order to know +/-
range of the var. Capacitor he wants to find the L. Freq. resonance=1/ 2 x Pi x root LC .
He knows the uper freq of the AM band and the lower and with them he can calculate the upper range of the RADIAL CAPACITOR AND THE LOWER RANGE.

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Hello Collin,
Thanks for your reply.
I know to operate relay we don’t require inductance value.
I want to calculate what value of back EMF relay coil can generate & formula for that is e= – L* di/dt for this L value is necessory.

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The back EMF has nothing to do with the inductance. It depends on the “Q” of the inductor.

Why do you need to know the back-EMF? It is always quenched via a diode.

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Because he wants to use it as to deliver an electrical shock Most relays will do that anyway from the back emf

 
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The coil resistance cannot be used to calculate the inductance. In some inductors, such as a loudspeaker, the impedance is often approximately the same as the DC resistance.

The inductance of a coil can be calculated if you have the necessary information, there is a calculator on this site:
http://www.eeweb.com/toolbox/coil-inductance/

Otherwise, the inductance can be measured directly with an inductance meter, most commonly an LCR meter is used.

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The inductance of the relay coil can be found using a power supply (or battery), an oscilloscope, and a current viewing resistor. The resistance of the current-viewing resistor should be less than 1/10 the relay coil resistance.

Using a mechanical switch connect the coil to the power supply (have the power supply already ON). Observe the coil current on the oscilloscope and note at what time it reaches 63% of the final value.

Using the formula T=L/R and solving for L=T x R, where T is time in seconds and R is the resistance of the coil, you have found the coil inductance.

The inductance of a relay coil is a valuable parameter to know. With it one can calculate the RL contribution to relay drop-out time, the stored energy to be dissipated when the relay is de-energized, and the flyback voltage of a non-clamped coil (given the circuit capacitance).

Note that adding series resistance to a relay coil clamp circuit decreases the RL contribution to drop-out time. For example, a resistor is added in series with the commonly used clamp diode.

For AC relay coils the inductance is often the dominant current limiting impedance. So, the inductance is more important than the resistance. This is why operating an AC relay coil on DC can damage it.

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Thanks David,
I think method which you shared is the best & esy one.
Thanks for your reply.

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I have a similar question, I have a LCR meter and know the L and R values.
what is the importance of L and especially the L/R ratio for coil design.

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I think it affects the Q or damping-factor – between two coils of the same inductance but different DC resistances, the one with higher resistance will exhibit lesser damping (or greater Q) when used in a resonant circuit.

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If you are going to make an AM radio, there are two things you need to know about the relay. Firstly, the iron core of the relay has magnetic prorerties which make it far too sluggish to work at tadio frequencies. The second thing is that the self capacity of the coil windings (because of the large number of turns) would render the tuning range too low by a long way to work on the AM radio band. You will need to carefully unwind some of the relay and teansfer enough wire to make about 100 turns to a cardboard or plastic tube of about 2 to 3 inches in diameter, The tuens should be close spaced in a single layer to get the highest tuning range.If the wire is very thin, scramble winding should suffice.This becomes the main inductor for tuning. A second coil may need to be wound about 1/8 of an inch away from the main coil for matching into the radio receiver electronics. The number of turns wll depend on the circuit but start wit 10 turns as this may be satisfactory for most circuits. There is much more I can tell you but this may be sufficient. (I am assuming that you want to build a radio receiver)..

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http://homepage.ntlworld.com/henry01/ladybird_radio/ladybird_radio.htm Right back to 1972 about 8 or 9 years old then

We used to strip the old transformers and chokes for the copper wire then to make the radios

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http://www.crystalradio.us/crystalradios/2005-2.htm

http://www.harrington.force9.co.uk/Projects/ElectronicProjects.htm

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